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		<title>Moses Support Digest: About mert-moses in mose-chart</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[[Moses-support] About mert-moses in mose-chart Dear Sir, When I use mert-moses in Mose-chart with the command: nohop nice ./mert-moses.pl working-dir/tunin /nc-dev2007.lowercased.fr working-dir/tuning/lowercased.en /home/i8001/s0810207/Mose-chartN/mose-chart/moses-cmd/src/moses working-dir/model/moses.ini &#8211;working-dir working-dir/tuning &#8211;rootdir /home/i8001/s0810207/Mose-chartN/bin/moses-scripts/scripts-20100302-1240/ &#8211;decoder-flags &#8220;-v 0&#8243; >&#038; working-dir/tuning/mert.out I met problem I can&#8217;t use hierarchical &#8230; <a href="http://www.52nlp.com/moses-support-digest-about-mert-moses-in-mose-chart/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>[Moses-support] About mert-moses in mose-chart</strong></p>
<p>Dear Sir,</p>
<p>When I use mert-moses in Mose-chart with the command:</p>
<p>nohop nice ./mert-moses.pl working-dir/tunin /nc-dev2007.lowercased.fr<br />
working-dir/tuning/lowercased.en<br />
/home/i8001/s0810207/Mose-chartN/mose-chart/moses-cmd/src/moses  working-dir/model/moses.ini<br />
&#8211;working-dir working-dir/tuning &#8211;rootdir /home/i8001/s0810207/Mose-chartN/bin/moses-scripts/scripts-20100302-1240/<br />
&#8211;decoder-flags &#8220;-v 0&#8243; >&#038; working-dir/tuning/mert.out</p>
<p>I met problem I can&#8217;t use hierarchical rules and lexicalised re-ordering at the same time.</p>
<p>I send moses.ini and problem in the attached files</p>
<p>Can you solve this problem for me</p>
<p>A lot of thanks and best regards</p>
<p>Bui Hung Thanh<br />
<span id="more-323"></span><br />
<strong>Re:[Moses-support] About mert-moses in mose-chart</strong></p>
<p>Hi,</p>
<p>lexicalized reordering cannot be used in hierarchical models.</p>
<p>-phi</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[[Moses-support] About moses-chart Dir sir, When I train rule table for moses chart, at the end of rule I saw two parameter (see rule example) ! &#8221; . [X] &#124;&#124;&#124; ! &#8221; [X] &#124;&#124;&#124; &#124;&#124;&#124; 0.333333 0.004318 1 0.0854249 2.718 &#8230; <a href="http://www.52nlp.com/moses-support-digest-about-moses-chart/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>[Moses-support] About moses-chart</strong></p>
<p>Dir sir,<br />
When I train rule table for moses chart, at the end of rule I saw two parameter (see rule example)</p>
<p>! &#8221; . [X] ||| ! &#8221; [X] |||  ||| 0.333333 0.004318 1 0.0854249 2.718 ||| 1.5 0.5</p>
<p>Could you please explain the meaning of tow parameter.<br />
Thank you!</p>
<p>&#8211;<br />
Thu.<br />
<span id="more-319"></span><br />
<strong>Re:[Moses-support] About moses-chart</strong></p>
<p>hi thuy</p>
<p>the last 2 numbers, 1.5 0.5, are the (fractional) counts used to calculate the probabilities. Its not used for anything at the moment, just for debugging</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[[Moses-support] mt3_chart compilation error Hi, When trying to compile mt3_chart i get a compilation error for PhraseDictionaryDynSuffixArray.o, what could be the cause/solution for this, could it be caused by adding -std=c++0x to the AM_CPPFLAGS (ref: http://www.mail-archive.com/moses-support@mit.edu/msg01483.html)? Im compiling with gcc4.4. &#8230; <a href="http://www.52nlp.com/moses-support-mt3_chart-compilation-error-mt3_chart-compilation-error/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>[Moses-support] mt3_chart compilation error</strong></p>
<p>Hi,</p>
<p>When trying to compile mt3_chart i get a compilation error for PhraseDictionaryDynSuffixArray.o, what could be the cause/solution for this, could it be caused by adding -std=c++0x to the AM_CPPFLAGS (ref: http://www.mail-archive.com/moses-support@mit.edu/msg01483.html)? Im compiling with gcc4.4.</p>
<p>g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../..  -W -Wall -ffor-scope -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64<br />
-D_LARGE_FILES -std=c++0x -I/home/marce/srilm64/include<br />
-I/home/marce/irstlm/include  -g -O2 -MT PhraseDictionaryDynSuffixArray.o<br />
-MD -MP -MF .deps/PhraseDictionaryDynSuffixArray.Tpo -c -o<br />
PhraseDictionaryDynSuffixArray.o PhraseDictionaryDynSuffixArray.cpp<br />
In file included from PhraseDictionaryDynSuffixArray.h:5,<br />
                 from PhraseDictionaryDynSuffixArray.cpp:1:<br />
DynSuffixArray.h: In member function âvoid<br />
Moses::DynSuffixArray::printAuxArrays()â:<br />
DynSuffixArray.h:43: warning: comparison between signed and unsigned integer<br />
expressions<br />
In file included from PhraseDictionaryDynSuffixArray.cpp:1:<br />
PhraseDictionaryDynSuffixArray.h: In member function âbool<br />
Moses::ScoresComp::operator()(const Moses::Scores&#038;, const Moses::Scores&#038;)<br />
constâ:<br />
PhraseDictionaryDynSuffixArray.h:61: error: âtypeofâ was not declared in<br />
this scope<br />
PhraseDictionaryDynSuffixArray.h:61: error: expected â;â before âitrâ<br />
PhraseDictionaryDynSuffixArray.h:61: error: âitrâ was not declared in this<br />
scope<br />
PhraseDictionaryDynSuffixArray.h:62: error: expected â;â before âitrâ<br />
PhraseDictionaryDynSuffixArray.h:62: error: âitrâ was not declared in this<br />
scope</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Marce<br />
<span id="more-317"></span><br />
<strong>Re:[Moses-support] mt3_chart compilation error</strong></p>
<p>maybe. the typeof function is not standard c++ may be causing problems  with different compiler versions.</p>
<p>it was used by Abby who is working on suffix arrays. You can try &#038; fix<br />
it, or comment out the code that uses it.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[[Moses-support] about the moses-chart reordering Dear all: Could you tell me where can I find the details of moses-chart reordering? It seems that the reordering table is quite different from that of moses. Is there any papers or documents for &#8230; <a href="http://www.52nlp.com/moses-support-digest-about-the-moses-chart-reordering/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>


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<p>Dear all:</p>
<p>Could you tell me where can I find the details of moses-chart reordering? It seems that the reordering table is quite different from that of moses. Is there any papers or documents for it? Thank you very much!</p>
<p>Best regards!</p>
<p>Jie Jiang<br />
CNGL, School of Computing,<br />
Dublin City University,<br />
Glasnevin, Dublin 9.<br />
Tel: +353 (0)1 700 6724<br />
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<strong>Re:[Moses-support] about the moses-chart reordering</strong></p>
<p>Hi,</p>
<p>the best reference would be David Chiang&#8217;s Computational Linguistics article on hierarchical phrase-based models.</p>
<p>-phi</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>[Moses-support] moses_chart and recaser/phrase-table ?</strong></p>
<p>Hi,</p>
<p>is the moses/moses_chart executable from the mt3_chart branch supposed to be usable as a recaser (that is using a phrase-table) ? When I do so then I get a SEGV (see stacktrace at the very end).</p>
<p>Working on the same files with moses from svn/trunk works fine.</p>
<p>I read somewhere that irstlm is not thread-safe and in the debug output I see that a new thread has been started. Is that the problem? I thought I&#8217;d be safe because I did *not* configure moses with &#8211;enable-threads nor with boost.</p>
<p>many thanks<br />
Christof<br />
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<strong>Re:[Moses-support] moses_chart and recaser/phrase-table ?</strong></p>
<p>hi christof</p>
<p>there&#8217;s small fiddly changes to the ini file format so the chart decoder isn&#8217;t backwardly compatible. You should use the trunk decoder if the data was trained using the trunk scripts</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>[Moses-support] moses-chart: error while compiling training scripts</strong></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got the following error message when compiling the training scripts from the moses-chart trunk:</p>
<p>g++ tables-core.o extract.o SyntaxTree.o XmlTree.o -o extract<br />
extract.o: In function `printAllHieroPhrases(SentenceAlignment&#038;, int,<br />
int, int, int, HoleCollection&#038;)&#8217;:<br />
moses-chart/scripts/training/phrase-extract/extract.cpp:561: undefined<br />
reference to `HoleCollection::SortSourceHoles()&#8217;<br />
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status<br />
make[1]: *** [extract] Error 1<br />
make[1]: Leaving directory `moses-chart/scripts/training/phrase-extract&#8217;<br />
make: *** [compile] Error 1</p>
<p>Does anyone know what the problem is?<br />
Thanks!</p>
<p>Jörg<br />
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<strong>Re:[Moses-support] moses-chart: error while compiling training scripts</strong></p>
<p>hi joerg</p>
<p>svn up 1 more time. i forgot to check in the makefile</p>
<p><strong>Re:[Moses-support] moses-chart: error while compiling training scripts</strong></p>
<p>Hi Joerg,</p>
<p>it seems there&#8217;s a bug in scripts/training/phrase-extract/Makefile. You need to add &#8220;HoleCollection.o&#8221; to the compile line and dependencies of &#8220;extract&#8221;:</p>
<p>extract: tables-core.o [...] HoleCollection.o extract.h<br />
	g++ tables-core.o [...] HoleCollection.o -o extract</p>
<p>at least that&#8217;s what I did &#8230;</p>
<p>best regards<br />
Christof</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[[Moses-support] compiling moses 3 chart Hello, I guess this question is for Hugh. I&#8217;m trying to compile the new moses chart parsing decoder in the mt3_chart directory. I have the berkeleydb libraries under /usr/lib and /usr/include. I run ./regenerate-makefiles.sh;./configure &#8211;with-srilm=/home/john/srilm &#8230; <a href="http://www.52nlp.com/moses-support-digest-compiling-moses-3-chart/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>[Moses-support] compiling moses 3 chart</strong></p>
<p>Hello,<br />
I guess this question is for Hugh.<br />
I&#8217;m trying to compile the new moses chart parsing decoder in the mt3_chart directory.<br />
I have the berkeleydb libraries under /usr/lib and /usr/include.<br />
I run ./regenerate-makefiles.sh;./configure<br />
&#8211;with-srilm=/home/john/srilm &#8211;with-berkeleydb=/usr<br />
I get warnings and then an error like:<br />
/usr/include/stdlib.h:351  error expected ; before * token<br />
.<br />
.<br />
.</p>
<p>I have the trunk moses working smoothly.  Is there anything extra needed to get the hierarchical chart parsing moses compiled?<br />
Thanks,</p>
<p>&#8211;<br />
Regards,<br />
John J Morgan<br />
<span id="more-205"></span><br />
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<strong>Re:[Moses-support] compiling moses 3 chart</strong></p>
<p>hi john</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve added another phrase table implementation in the chart branch which uses berkeley db so even if you compile trunk ok, you need to do a little extra for this branch. I think if Berkeley db includes &#038; libs are installed in the default locations, you don&#8217;t need to specify the &#8211;with-berkeleydb option.</p>
<p>Hieu</p>
<p><strong>Re:[Moses-support] compiling moses 3 chart</strong></p>
<p>Hi,</p>
<p>try to compile without the &#8211;with-berkeleydb switch and everything should work.</p>
<p>-phi</p>
<p><em>NOTICE:This is digested from the Moses-support mailing list, which supports for the moses SMT decoder.</em></p>


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