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		<description><![CDATA[[Moses-support] moses-irstlm memory racing with 5-gram lm I&#8217;m troubleshooting a new moses system with these components: 1) GIZA++ (SVN rev 8, v 1.0.3) 2) IRSTLM (SVN rev 38, v 5.40.01) 3) Moses (SVN rev 3210, dated 4-26-2010) 4) Ubuntu-server 10.04 &#8230; <a href="http://www.52nlp.com/moses-support-digest-moses-irstlm-memory-racing-with-5-gram-lm/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>[Moses-support] moses-irstlm memory racing with 5-gram lm</strong></p>
<p>I&#8217;m troubleshooting a new moses system with these components:<br />
  1) GIZA++ (SVN rev 8, v 1.0.3)<br />
  2) IRSTLM (SVN rev 38, v 5.40.01)<br />
  3) Moses (SVN rev 3210, dated 4-26-2010)<br />
  4) Ubuntu-server 10.04 LTS 64-bit.<br />
  5) 3.4 Ghz Pentium-D with 4gb ram.</p>
<p>Using a 3-gram lm, the system works as expected. Training, tuning and<br />
evaluation a small (135K pairs) en-nl subset of europarl.v5 work fine. BLEU<br />
score was 23. </p>
<p>I then built a 5-gram model, edited the moses.ini config and started<br />
mert-moses-new. It creates a filtered model, and then launches moses. The<br />
memory usage grows and within 10 minutes, the system kills moses.</p>
<p>In both cases, the lm is only the target half of the bitext corpus, about<br />
135K lines.</p>
<p>The moses.ini files:</p>
<p>[lmodel-file]<br />
1 0 3 /media/models/irstlm/europarl.v5.mini/3-gram.nl.blm</p>
<p>[lmodel-file]<br />
1 0 5 /media/models/irstlm/europarl.v5.mini/5-gram.nl.blm</p>
<p>I know of one other who has anyone the same problem with the 4-1-2010<br />
moses build and irstlm from March/April last year.</p>
<p>Any suggestions? Could it be the new Ubuntu or the g++-4.4.1 compiler? </p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Tom<br />
<span id="more-377"></span><br />
<strong>Re: [Moses-support] moses-irstlm memory racing with 5-gram lm</strong></p>
<p>i&#8217;m not an expert on irstlm but i think you have to rename or softlink<br />
the file so that the extension ends in .mm to minimise memory usage.</p>
<p>http://www.statmt.org/moses/?n=FactoredTraining.BuildingLanguageModel#ntoc7</p>
<p>otherwise it&#8217;ll just allocate as much memory as needed to load the LM file</p>
<p><strong>Re: [Moses-support] moses-irstlm memory racing with 5-gram lm</strong></p>
<p>Problem solved. </p>
<p>To review the symptoms, I ran the following two mert-moses-new.pl command<br />
lines:</p>
<p>CASE 1:<br />
nice mert-moses-new.pl<br />
   /media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/mert.irstlm.3.en-nl/mert.en</p>
<p>   /media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/mert.irstlm.3.en-nl/mert.nl</p>
<p>   /usr/local/lib/moses-irstlm/moses-cmd/src/moses </p>
<p>/media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/mert.irstlm.3.en-nl/moses0.ini</p>
<p>   &#8211;working-dir<br />
/media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/mert.irstlm.3.en-nl<br />
   &#8211;rootdir /usr/local/lib/moses-irstlm/scripts<br />
   &#8211;mertdir=/usr/local/lib/moses-irstlm/mert<br />
   &#8211;nbest=50<br />
   &#8211;decoder-flags -v 0</p>
<p>CASE 2:<br />
nice mert-moses-new.pl<br />
   /media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/mert.irstlm.5.en-nl/mert.en</p>
<p>   /media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/mert.irstlm.5.en-nl/mert.nl</p>
<p>   /usr/local/lib/moses-irstlm/moses-cmd/src/moses </p>
<p>/media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/mert.irstlm.5.en-nl/moses0.ini</p>
<p>   &#8211;working-dir<br />
/media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/mert.irstlm.5.en-nl<br />
   &#8211;rootdir /usr/local/lib/moses-irstlm/scripts<br />
   &#8211;mertdir=/usr/local/lib/moses-irstlm/mert<br />
   &#8211;nbest=50<br />
   &#8211;decoder-flags -v 0</p>
<p>Only one line (the lmodel-file) was different in the respective starting<br />
config files:</p>
<p>CASE 1:<br />
/media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/mert.irstlm.3.en-nl/moses0.ini:<br />
[ttable-file]<br />
0 0 0 5<br />
/media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/model.en-nl/phrase-table.gz<br />
[lmodel-file]<br />
1 0 3 /media/models/irstlm/europarl.v5.mini/3-gram.nl.blm.mm<br />
[distortion-file]<br />
0-0 wbe-msd-bidirectional-fe-allff 6<br />
/media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/model.en-nl/reordering-table.wbe-msd-bidirectional-fe.gz</p>
<p>CASE 2:<br />
/media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/mert.irstlm.5.en-nl/moses0.ini:<br />
[ttable-file]<br />
0 0 0 5<br />
/media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/model.en-nl/phrase-table.gz<br />
[lmodel-file]<br />
1 0 5 /media/models/irstlm/europarl.v5.mini/5-gram.nl.blm.mm<br />
[distortion-file]<br />
0-0 wbe-msd-bidirectional-fe-allff 6<br />
/media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/model.en-nl/reordering-table.wbe-msd-bidirectional-fe.gz</p>
<p>In both cases, mert-moses-new.pl filtered the phrase table successfully.<br />
In CASE 1, the tuning process continued and concluded with a final<br />
moses.ini file with new weights. In CASE 2, however, mert-moses-new.pl<br />
created run1.moses.ini. The moses process rapidly (less than 5 minutes)<br />
consumed all RAM and virtual memory leaving nothing for other processes. It<br />
never sent output to the run1.out file. The system killed moses and<br />
mert-moses-new.pl. This occurred from the mert-moses-new.pl script or from<br />
the command line using the run1.moses.ini file.</p>
<p>Furthermore, I changed run1.moses.ini to use the binarized phrase and<br />
reordering tables:<br />
0 0 0 5<br />
/media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/model.en-nl/phrase-table.gz<br />
  changed to:<br />
1 0 0 5<br />
/media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/model.en-nl/phrase-table</p>
<p>0-0 wbe-msd-bidirectional-fe-allff 6<br />
/media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/model.en-nl/reordering-table.wbe-msd-bidirectional-fe.gz<br />
  changed to<br />
0-0 wbe-msd-bidirectional-fe-allff 6<br />
/media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/model.en-nl/reordering-table.wbe-msd-bidirectional-fe</p>
<p>With this modified config from the command line (not mert-moses-new.pl),<br />
moses loaded in seconds and translated stdin/stdout just fine. Only<br />
configurations with the full .gz model and filtered model exhibited the<br />
problems. The filtered model, by the way, is only 20 MB for phrase AND<br />
reordering tables.</p>
<p>SOLUTION:<br />
When I first built IRSTLM with MACHTYPE=x86_64, it created<br />
$IRSTLM/bin/x86_64. Then, building moses using &#8211;with-irstlm=$IRSTLM<br />
finished without fatal errors. I recently read the moses-support threads<br />
about using a $SRILM/bin/i686 folder. So, I applied the same solution to<br />
IRSTLM. I rebuilt IRSTLM and I created two symlinks:<br />
   ln -s $IRSTLM/bin/x86_64 $IRSTLM/bin/i686<br />
   ln -s $IRSTLM/lib/x86_64 $IRSTLM/lib/i686</p>
<p>Then, I rebuild moses &#8211;with-irstlm=$IRSTLM. </p>
<p>RESULTS: the mert-moses-new.pl script runs flawlessly with 3-gram and<br />
5-gram IRSTLM language models and the exact same config files in CASE 1 and<br />
CASE 2 above. </p>
<p>Go figure!</p>
<p>Hope this helps others.</p>
<p>Tom</p>


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>[Moses-support] Moses Support Digest:A translation chain prototype with Moses + IRSTLM</strong></p>
<p>http://code.google.com/p/moses-for-mere-mortals/</p>
<p>This site offers a set of 3 scripts that, together, create a basic translation chain prototype (with Moses + IRSTLM) able of processing very large corpora. The idea is to help build a translation chain for the real world, but it should also enable a quick evaluation of Moses for actual translation work and guide users in their first steps of using Moses. <span id="more-105"></span>It is mainly composed of Bash scripts that automate the installation, the training and the translation tasks. It includes documentation on how to use these scripts and provides a demonstration corpus (too small for doing justice to the qualitative results that can be achieved with Moses, but capable of giving a realistic view of the relative duration of the steps involved). For building very large corpora using your own translation memories (*.TMX files), please see http://code.google.com/p/extract-tmx-corpus/.</p>
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One would expect that the users of these scripts, perhaps after having tried the demonstration corpus, immediately use and get results with the real corpora they are interested in.</p>
<p>The scripts were tested in Ubuntu 9.04. Some users report problems compiling IRSTLM in Ubuntu 9.10.</p>
<p>Though already tested and used in practical work, this should be considered a work in progress. So as to protect the users not yet completely acquainted with Moses, these scripts try to avoid mistakes that would cost them dearly in terms of time and/or results. That makes them a bit inflexible for the time being, but complete modularity and a flexible, user-friendly approach are very much in the centre of these project&#8217;s intentions.</p>
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