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		<description><![CDATA[[Moses-support] CALL FOR PAPERS &#8211; PBML CALL FOR PAPERS: OPEN SOURCE TOOLS FOR MACHINE TRANSLATION The Fifth Machine Translation Marathon, which will take place September 13-18 in Le Mans, France, is hosting an Open Source Convention to advance the state &#8230; <a href="http://www.52nlp.com/moses-support-digest-call-for-papers-pbml/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>


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<p>                     CALL FOR PAPERS:<br />
   OPEN SOURCE TOOLS FOR MACHINE TRANSLATION<br />
 The Fifth Machine Translation Marathon, which will take place September<br />
13-18 in Le Mans, France, is hosting an Open Source Convention to<br />
 advance the state of the art in machine translation. The MT Marathon<br />
is organised by the computer science laboratory of Le Mans (LIUM) and the<br />
 University of Le Mans on behalf of the EuroMatrixPlus Consortium.<br />
 We invite developers of open source tools to present their work and<br />
 submit a paper of up to 10 pages that (a) describes the underlying<br />
methodology and (b) includes instructions how to use the tools.<br />
 We are looking for stand-alone tools and extensions of existing tools,<br />
such as the Moses open source systems. Accepted papers will be<br />
 presented during the MT Marathon and published as a special issue of<br />
the Prague Bulletin of Mathematical Linguistics (</p>
<p>http://ufal.mff.cuni.cz/pbml).</p>
<p> Possible topics:<br />
 * training of machine translation models<br />
* machine translation decoders<br />
* tuning of machine translation systems<br />
 * evaluation of machine translation<br />
* visualization, annotation or debugging tools<br />
 * tools for human translators<br />
* interfaces for web-based services or APIs<br />
 * extensions of existing tools<br />
* other tools for machine translation<br />
 This is the third time that the MT Marathon will host the Open Source<br />
Convention. The papers from previous years are available online:</p>
<p>http://ufal.mff.cuni.cz/pbml-91-100.html</p>
<p> Papers will be reviewed by two reviewers appointed by the program<br />
committee<br />
 e.g. papers which will be marked as the best by the reviewers (with no<br />
substantial<br />
modifications required) will be printed as usual in the PBML journal in time<br />
for the MT Marathon.<br />
 Others will be printed after requested modifications in the next PBML<br />
issue.<br />
 Important dates:<br />
 Deadline for paper submission: August 1 2010<br />
 Notification of acceptance: August 7 2010<br />
Camera-ready paper due: August 14 2010<br />
 Presentations: September 13-17 2010 (at the MT Marathon in Le Mans)<br />
Camera-ready (next issue) : 15 December 2010<br />
 Please send full non-anonymous submissions in PDF to Philipp Koehn <<br />
pkoehn at inf.ed.ac.uk><br />
        and the full Xe(La)TeX source for technical pre-review to Ondřej<br />
Bojar <bojar at ufal.mff.cuni.cz>.<br />
 Please use the PBML style files from</p>
<p>http://ufal.mff.cuni.cz/pbml-instructions.html</p>
<p> (follow the &#8220;short paper&#8221; track instructions).<br />
 Program Committee<br />
 Philipp Koehn<br />
Ondrej Bojar<br />
 Holger Schwenk<br />
Loïc Barrault</p>


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		<description><![CDATA[[Moses-support] moses-irstlm memory racing with 5-gram lm I&#8217;m troubleshooting a new moses system with these components: 1) GIZA++ (SVN rev 8, v 1.0.3) 2) IRSTLM (SVN rev 38, v 5.40.01) 3) Moses (SVN rev 3210, dated 4-26-2010) 4) Ubuntu-server 10.04 &#8230; <a href="http://www.52nlp.com/moses-support-digest-moses-irstlm-memory-racing-with-5-gram-lm/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>


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<p>I&#8217;m troubleshooting a new moses system with these components:<br />
  1) GIZA++ (SVN rev 8, v 1.0.3)<br />
  2) IRSTLM (SVN rev 38, v 5.40.01)<br />
  3) Moses (SVN rev 3210, dated 4-26-2010)<br />
  4) Ubuntu-server 10.04 LTS 64-bit.<br />
  5) 3.4 Ghz Pentium-D with 4gb ram.</p>
<p>Using a 3-gram lm, the system works as expected. Training, tuning and<br />
evaluation a small (135K pairs) en-nl subset of europarl.v5 work fine. BLEU<br />
score was 23. </p>
<p>I then built a 5-gram model, edited the moses.ini config and started<br />
mert-moses-new. It creates a filtered model, and then launches moses. The<br />
memory usage grows and within 10 minutes, the system kills moses.</p>
<p>In both cases, the lm is only the target half of the bitext corpus, about<br />
135K lines.</p>
<p>The moses.ini files:</p>
<p>[lmodel-file]<br />
1 0 3 /media/models/irstlm/europarl.v5.mini/3-gram.nl.blm</p>
<p>[lmodel-file]<br />
1 0 5 /media/models/irstlm/europarl.v5.mini/5-gram.nl.blm</p>
<p>I know of one other who has anyone the same problem with the 4-1-2010<br />
moses build and irstlm from March/April last year.</p>
<p>Any suggestions? Could it be the new Ubuntu or the g++-4.4.1 compiler? </p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Tom<br />
<span id="more-377"></span><br />
<strong>Re: [Moses-support] moses-irstlm memory racing with 5-gram lm</strong></p>
<p>i&#8217;m not an expert on irstlm but i think you have to rename or softlink<br />
the file so that the extension ends in .mm to minimise memory usage.</p>
<p>http://www.statmt.org/moses/?n=FactoredTraining.BuildingLanguageModel#ntoc7</p>
<p>otherwise it&#8217;ll just allocate as much memory as needed to load the LM file</p>
<p><strong>Re: [Moses-support] moses-irstlm memory racing with 5-gram lm</strong></p>
<p>Problem solved. </p>
<p>To review the symptoms, I ran the following two mert-moses-new.pl command<br />
lines:</p>
<p>CASE 1:<br />
nice mert-moses-new.pl<br />
   /media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/mert.irstlm.3.en-nl/mert.en</p>
<p>   /media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/mert.irstlm.3.en-nl/mert.nl</p>
<p>   /usr/local/lib/moses-irstlm/moses-cmd/src/moses </p>
<p>/media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/mert.irstlm.3.en-nl/moses0.ini</p>
<p>   &#8211;working-dir<br />
/media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/mert.irstlm.3.en-nl<br />
   &#8211;rootdir /usr/local/lib/moses-irstlm/scripts<br />
   &#8211;mertdir=/usr/local/lib/moses-irstlm/mert<br />
   &#8211;nbest=50<br />
   &#8211;decoder-flags -v 0</p>
<p>CASE 2:<br />
nice mert-moses-new.pl<br />
   /media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/mert.irstlm.5.en-nl/mert.en</p>
<p>   /media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/mert.irstlm.5.en-nl/mert.nl</p>
<p>   /usr/local/lib/moses-irstlm/moses-cmd/src/moses </p>
<p>/media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/mert.irstlm.5.en-nl/moses0.ini</p>
<p>   &#8211;working-dir<br />
/media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/mert.irstlm.5.en-nl<br />
   &#8211;rootdir /usr/local/lib/moses-irstlm/scripts<br />
   &#8211;mertdir=/usr/local/lib/moses-irstlm/mert<br />
   &#8211;nbest=50<br />
   &#8211;decoder-flags -v 0</p>
<p>Only one line (the lmodel-file) was different in the respective starting<br />
config files:</p>
<p>CASE 1:<br />
/media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/mert.irstlm.3.en-nl/moses0.ini:<br />
[ttable-file]<br />
0 0 0 5<br />
/media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/model.en-nl/phrase-table.gz<br />
[lmodel-file]<br />
1 0 3 /media/models/irstlm/europarl.v5.mini/3-gram.nl.blm.mm<br />
[distortion-file]<br />
0-0 wbe-msd-bidirectional-fe-allff 6<br />
/media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/model.en-nl/reordering-table.wbe-msd-bidirectional-fe.gz</p>
<p>CASE 2:<br />
/media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/mert.irstlm.5.en-nl/moses0.ini:<br />
[ttable-file]<br />
0 0 0 5<br />
/media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/model.en-nl/phrase-table.gz<br />
[lmodel-file]<br />
1 0 5 /media/models/irstlm/europarl.v5.mini/5-gram.nl.blm.mm<br />
[distortion-file]<br />
0-0 wbe-msd-bidirectional-fe-allff 6<br />
/media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/model.en-nl/reordering-table.wbe-msd-bidirectional-fe.gz</p>
<p>In both cases, mert-moses-new.pl filtered the phrase table successfully.<br />
In CASE 1, the tuning process continued and concluded with a final<br />
moses.ini file with new weights. In CASE 2, however, mert-moses-new.pl<br />
created run1.moses.ini. The moses process rapidly (less than 5 minutes)<br />
consumed all RAM and virtual memory leaving nothing for other processes. It<br />
never sent output to the run1.out file. The system killed moses and<br />
mert-moses-new.pl. This occurred from the mert-moses-new.pl script or from<br />
the command line using the run1.moses.ini file.</p>
<p>Furthermore, I changed run1.moses.ini to use the binarized phrase and<br />
reordering tables:<br />
0 0 0 5<br />
/media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/model.en-nl/phrase-table.gz<br />
  changed to:<br />
1 0 0 5<br />
/media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/model.en-nl/phrase-table</p>
<p>0-0 wbe-msd-bidirectional-fe-allff 6<br />
/media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/model.en-nl/reordering-table.wbe-msd-bidirectional-fe.gz<br />
  changed to<br />
0-0 wbe-msd-bidirectional-fe-allff 6<br />
/media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/model.en-nl/reordering-table.wbe-msd-bidirectional-fe</p>
<p>With this modified config from the command line (not mert-moses-new.pl),<br />
moses loaded in seconds and translated stdin/stdout just fine. Only<br />
configurations with the full .gz model and filtered model exhibited the<br />
problems. The filtered model, by the way, is only 20 MB for phrase AND<br />
reordering tables.</p>
<p>SOLUTION:<br />
When I first built IRSTLM with MACHTYPE=x86_64, it created<br />
$IRSTLM/bin/x86_64. Then, building moses using &#8211;with-irstlm=$IRSTLM<br />
finished without fatal errors. I recently read the moses-support threads<br />
about using a $SRILM/bin/i686 folder. So, I applied the same solution to<br />
IRSTLM. I rebuilt IRSTLM and I created two symlinks:<br />
   ln -s $IRSTLM/bin/x86_64 $IRSTLM/bin/i686<br />
   ln -s $IRSTLM/lib/x86_64 $IRSTLM/lib/i686</p>
<p>Then, I rebuild moses &#8211;with-irstlm=$IRSTLM. </p>
<p>RESULTS: the mert-moses-new.pl script runs flawlessly with 3-gram and<br />
5-gram IRSTLM language models and the exact same config files in CASE 1 and<br />
CASE 2 above. </p>
<p>Go figure!</p>
<p>Hope this helps others.</p>
<p>Tom</p>


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		<title>Moses Support Digest: EMS table binarization</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[[Moses-support] EMS: table binarization Hi all, I&#8217;m trying to run a system with a binary phrase table, and it doesn&#8217;t appear to be doing the binarization. Looking in experiment.meta the relevant section appears to be binarize-config in: config out: bin-config &#8230; <a href="http://www.52nlp.com/moses-support-digest-ems-table-binarization/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>[Moses-support] EMS: table binarization</strong></p>
<p>Hi all,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m trying to run a system with a binary phrase table, and it doesn&#8217;t appear to be doing the binarization. Looking in experiment.meta the relevant section appears to be</p>
<p>binarize-config<br />
         in: config<br />
         out: bin-config<br />
         pass-unless: binarize-all<br />
         rerun-on-change: config<br />
         default-name: model/moses.bin.ini<br />
         template: $binarize-all $ttable-binarizer $rtable-binarizer OUT IN</p>
<p>I can specify ttable-binarizer and rtable-binarizer, but I can&#8217;t work out what the value of binarize-all should be. Any suggestions?</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Suzy<br />
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<strong>Re: [Moses-support] EMS: table binarization</strong></p>
<p>Hi,</p>
<p>this seems to be a rudimentary feature from ancient times that ceased to function properly. It should not be to hard to fix it. Let me know, if you need help with it.</p>
<p>-phi</p>


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		<title>Moses Support Digest: processPhraseTable in windows</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[[Moses-support] processPhraseTable in windows Dear All, I would like to know how to run processPhraseTable in windows to make Binary Phrase Tables. Best Regards, Kyaw Kyaw Zin Re: [Moses-support] processPhraseTable in windows the same as on any other platform, but &#8230; <a href="http://www.52nlp.com/moses-support-digest-processphrasetable-in-windows/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>


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<p>Dear All,</p>
<p>I would like to know how to run processPhraseTable in windows to make Binary Phrase Tables.</p>
<p>Best Regards,<br />
Kyaw Kyaw Zin<br />
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<strong>Re: [Moses-support] processPhraseTable in windows</strong></p>
<p>the same as on any other platform, but please read</p>
<p>http://www.statmt.org/moses/?n=Moses.FAQ#ntoc9</p>


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<p>I have a doubt about moses.</p>
<p>when I try to compile with make on Mac (Snow Leopard or Leopard), it gives me strange libtool errors (see below). It&#8217;s only recently been doing this so might be caused by software update. Its a clean install of OSX so there shouldn&#8217;t be resource problems. And it compile fine with xcode.</p>
<p>error:<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
make<br />
make  all-recursive<br />
Making all in moses/src<br />
make  all-am<br />
/bin/sh ../../libtool &#8211;tag=CXX   &#8211;mode=compile g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I.<br />
-I../..  -W -Wall -ffor-scope -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D_LARGE_FILES<br />
-DTRACE_ENABLE=1  -g -O2 -MT AlignmentInfo.lo -MD -MP -MF<br />
.deps/AlignmentInfo.Tpo -c -o AlignmentInfo.lo AlignmentInfo.cpp<br />
../../libtool: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable<br />
../../libtool: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable<br />
../../libtool: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable<br />
../../libtool: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable<br />
../../libtool: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable<br />
../../libtool: line 712: *** Warning: inferring the mode of operation is<br />
deprecated.: command not found<br />
../../libtool: line 713: *** Future versions of Libtool will require<br />
-mode=MODE be specified.: command not found<br />
../../libtool: line 745: : warning: cannot infer operation mode without<br />
MODE-ARGS: command not found<br />
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<strong>Re: [Moses-support] compiling on Mac</strong></p>
<p>Dear Hieu</p>
<p>The only trouble I had compiling on a Mac was I needed to install a recent version of automake.  I note the doc [1] says</p>
<p>     For OS X versions 10.4 and lower, you need to upgrade aclocal and<br />
     automake to at least version 1.9 (1.6 is the default in 10.4) and<br />
     set the variables ACLOCAL and AUTOMAKE in ./regenerate-makefiles.sh.</p>
<p>I was running 10.5 or 6 and I had to upgrade [2].</p>
<p>Best wishes</p>
<p>Ivan</p>
<p>[1] Moses Installation and Training Run-Through</p>
<p>http://www.statmt.org/moses_steps.html</p>
<p>[2] Installing Moses and irstlm on Mac OS X and Cygwin</p>
<p>https://www.bangor.ac.uk/~cbs007/mt/getting_started.html</p>
<p><strong>Re: [Moses-support] compiling on Mac</strong></p>
<p>ah, i found the problem &#038; solution. (libtool on mac) != (libtool on linux)</p>
<p>have to install gnu libtool, then rename<br />
   libtoolize<br />
in<br />
   *regenerate-makefiles.sh*<br />
to<br />
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		<title>Moses Support Digest: about CreateOnDiskPt parameter</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[[Moses-support] about CreateOnDiskPt parameter Hi all: Could please anyone explain a bit about these two parameter of CreateOnDiskPt: [#source factors] [#target factors] Because when I&#8217;m trying to binarize the New format of moses [version 2010/4/26], I have to use [#source &#8230; <a href="http://www.52nlp.com/moses-support-digest-about-createondiskpt-parameter/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>[Moses-support] about CreateOnDiskPt parameter</strong></p>
<p>Hi all:</p>
<p>Could please anyone explain a bit about these two parameter of<br />
CreateOnDiskPt:<br />
[#source factors] [#target factors]<br />
Because when I&#8217;m trying to binarize the New format of moses [version<br />
2010/4/26], I have to use<br />
[#source factors] = 1<br />
[#target factors] =1<br />
to make it run successfully.</p>
<p>However, the specification in moses.ini has a factor 0 for both source and<br />
target.</p>
<p>Does it mean in the source code, now moses suppose the source/target words<br />
as the first factor?</p>
<p>Best regards!<br />
<span id="more-363"></span><br />
<strong>Re: [Moses-support] about CreateOnDiskPt parameter</strong></p>
<p>hi jie</p>
<p>not sure what you mean. In CreateOnDiskPt, you specify the number of factors<br />
(1). In the ini file, you specify which factor (0).</p>


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>[Moses-support] experiment management system and Moses scripts<br />
</strong><br />
Hi all,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve just downloaded and installed the latest subversion revision  (3261) and I&#8217;m trying out the new experiment management system, but the Moses scripts are causing me problems. When I point the config variable &#8216;moses-script-dir&#8217; to ~/mosesdecoder/scripts (the scripts directory inside the repository), executing the ems crashes because BINDIR is not set in train-model.perl. However if I instead run &#8216;make release&#8217; from ~/mosesdecoder/scripts and set moses-scripts-dir to point to the directory thus created, the ems crashes when checking the config because that scripts directory doesn&#8217;t include generic/mteval-v12.pl or the tokenizer and ems directories. Is the solution to update ~/mosesdecoder/scripts/released_files, or to change BINDIR in train-model.perl without running &#8216;make release&#8217;, or something else?</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Suzy<br />
<span id="more-361"></span><br />
<strong>[Moses-support]Re:experiment management system and Moses scripts </strong></p>
<p>Hi,</p>
<p>thanks for trying out experiment.perl, please let me know of any other problems you encounter.</p>
<p>The two solutions you indicate are both correct. I just updated in the main branch ~/mosesdecoder/scripts/released_files so that should be up to date now.</p>
<p>-phi</p>


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<p>Hello</p>
<p>I have a question to which I have been wanting to know the answer, I<br />
googled, I read but I am still not clear about the following: I replicated<br />
the baseline, following these steps:<br />
1. Preprocessing of training data<br />
2. Actual training ( LM, RM and TM ) =>moses.ini<br />
3. Translating<br />
4. Evaluating<br />
5. Tuning => moses.weight-reused.ini</p>
<p>So far all is ok, but now I need to improve my baseline by trying to find<br />
the suitable parameter values. My question is: when I modify certain<br />
parameters ( like distortion limit, stack size, translation-table etc) do I<br />
use during the translation the moses.ini file or the moses.weigh-reused.<br />
file. I know that the latter has the values for weight-t, weight-l,weight-d,<br />
weight-w different, but I want to &#8220;play&#8221; with the other parameters as well.<br />
With which one do I work for improvement on the system?</p>
<p>Thank you</p>
<p>Ligia<br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>[Moses-support] Moses seems to hang<br />
</strong><br />
I just built a new moses system with the newest releases of all<br />
components:<br />
  1) GIZA++ (SVN rev 8, v 1.0.3)<br />
  2) IRSTLM (SVN rev 38, v 5.40.01)<br />
  3) Moses (SVN rev 3210, dated 4-26-2010)</p>
<p>My host system is the new Ubuntu-server 10.04 LTS 64-bit. I&#8217;ll be<br />
contributing several patches as soon as I confirm they&#8217;re working. </p>
<p>The all components now builds successfully. The LM training goes smoothly,<br />
as does the train-factored-phrase-model.perl training. Binarizing LM,<br />
phrase and reordering tables goes as expected.</p>
<p>When I try to run my first test translations before tuning, Moses seems to<br />
load the reordering table, phrase table and language models. Then, the<br />
system does nothing. There is no output. It stays suspended until I hit<br />
Ctrl-C.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the input:</p>
<p>dit is niet gebeurd . | moses -f ./model/moses.ini</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the output:</p>
<p>Defined parameters (per moses.ini or switch):<br />
	config: ./model/moses.ini<br />
	distortion-file: 0-0 wbe-msd-bidirectional-fe-allff 6<br />
./model/reordering-table<br />
	distortion-limit: 6<br />
	input-factors: 0<br />
	lmodel-file: 0 0 3 ./lm/irstlm-3.en.blm.mm<br />
	mapping: 0 T 0<br />
	ttable-file: 0 0 0 5 ./model/phrase-table<br />
	ttable-limit: 20<br />
	weight-d: 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.3<br />
	weight-l: 0.5000<br />
	weight-t: 0.2 0.2 0.2 0.2 0.2<br />
	weight-w: -1<br />
Loading lexical distortion models&#8230;have 1 models<br />
Creating lexical reordering&#8230;<br />
weights: 0.300 0.300 0.300 0.300 0.300 0.300<br />
binary file loaded, default OFF_T: -1<br />
Start loading LanguageModel ./lm/irstlm-3.en.blm.mm : [0.000] seconds<br />
Loading Internal LM: ./lm/irstlm-3.en.blm.mm<br />
./lm/europarl.v5.mini-irstlm-3.en.blm.mm<br />
Finished loading LanguageModels : [1.000] seconds<br />
Start loading PhraseTable ./model/phrase-table : [1.000] seconds<br />
filePath: ./model/phrase-table</p>
<p>((( this is where it stops until I hit Ctrl-C )))</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never seen this before. Any suggestions? </p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Tom<br />
<span id="more-356"></span><br />
<strong>Re: [Moses-support] Moses seems to hang<br />
</strong></p>
<p>It looks like it is trying to use the internal language model instead of<br />
the IRSTLM one. Check the line for your language model in model.ini.<br />
Here is what I have for an IRSTLM 5-gram unfactored language model:</p>
<p> # language models: type(srilm/irstlm), factors, order, file<br />
 [lmodel-file]<br />
 1 0 5 /tmp/work/sq.blm</p>
<p>(This might not be related to your problem, but it struck me as odd at<br />
any rate)</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Fran</p>


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		<title>Moses Support Digest: Copyright application issue for a Snippet Translation System using MOSES</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[[Moses-support] Copyright application issue for a Snippet Translation System using MOSES Dear Sir, We have developed a reordered Phrase based SMT System with reordering of input snippets obtained from a search engine. The system translates English / Hindi snippets to &#8230; <a href="http://www.52nlp.com/moses-support-digest-copyright-application-issue-for-a-snippet-translation-system-using-moses/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>[Moses-support] Copyright application issue for a Snippet Translation System using MOSES</strong></p>
<p>Dear Sir,</p>
<p>We have developed a reordered Phrase based SMT System with reordering of input snippets obtained from a search engine. The system translates English / Hindi snippets to the following Indian languages: Hindi/Bengali/Marathi/Tamil/Telugu/Punjabi. For developing this Snippet Translation system we have used MOSES Training Toolkit and Decoder and also the SRILM toolkit for generating the Language model in English .</p>
<p>The above system was developed by us as Member of the Project Team for R&#038;D project entitled: Development of Cross Lingual Information Access System (CLIA) and the machine translation system is being copyrighted with Department of Information Technology (DIT), Government of India, New Delhi &#038; Jadavpur University, Kolkata as the owners.</p>
<p>Please tell us whether we need to include the reference to MOSES in the application for registration of copyright and how we can do that.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Sivaji<br />
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<strong>Re: [Moses-support] Copyright application issue for a Snippet Translation System using MOSES</strong></p>
<p>Hi Sivaji</p>
<p>Moses is open-source software, licensed under the Gnu Lesser General Public License (LGPL). This means that you are free to use it as you wish in your own system, however the copyright to moses remains with its authors. The LGPL only really matters if you wish to distribute modified versions of moses, outside your organisation.</p>
<p>SRILM is different though. You should check the exact conditions on the SRILM website, but afaik it is only free for research use &#8211; there is a license fee for commercial use. If you want an open source language modelling toolkit, then use IRSTLM.</p>
<p>As regards the translations that are output by moses, I&#8217;m not sure what their exact status is, but I&#8217;m certain that the moses authors do not retain any copyright over these,</p>
<p>Hope that helps,</p>
<p>regards<br />
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